Hi everyone!
So, here is our podcast, episode #6 of Men: An Explanation. Tim calls it Savage Amazement. Maybe it’s both.
In this episode, we talk about early creative days, including teachers and spaces where this felt safe and nurturing. Then we all talk about Tennessee Williams, , Nick Cave, Homer, Nina Simone and Lauren Weinstein and how they take out the garbage.
Tim reads from the biography of Tennessee Williams by John Lahr.
We are graced with the voice of Ell Potter in this (and future episodes). Go visit the Ell’s temple of creativity here and here. Thank you Ell!
(Tennessee Williams and his chicken in Florida.)
(Lauren Weinstein at the spa. Here’s the episode where we talk about “real life”)
Here are some timestamps:
Episode 6 rough timestamps
00:30 - Early experience of being an artist. Showing or hiding our creative sides when in grade school.
04:30 - Early teachers
05:30 - Art room as sacred space, teachers, school spaces, English teachers
11:15 - Staying mainstream enough to not draw too much attention
12:20 - The maze if at the end there is a desk where I can do what I want to do
13:00 - Tim's bad 3rd grade art teacher who scolded him for drawing a pilgrim with blue hair.
14:45 - Learning to write.
16:00 Learning there was a difference between popular fiction and literary fiction.
27: Horror stories, horror in mythology and folklore and maybe violence and suffering being the basis of most common stories.
27:50: Why does a tornado go down the road?
28:35 Explanations for envy, revenge, pettiness. Trickster stories
30:20 Tennessee Williams . Her sister's impulses and his impulses. His plays were ways to work through desire and to explain random events and impulses.
34:45 More about Tim and Tom trying to remember what they've seen/read about Tennessee Williams
36:00 The Nick Cave's Red Hand Files, Cave on Kanye West, and great art by bad people
38:00 How does Homer take out the garbage?
38:45: Nina Simone and the highs and lows.
41:30: Tom on Lauren Weinstein's transition from pampered and in the world of the story to cleaning toilets and making dinner.
44:00 Tim's Reading Corner: From the biography of Tennessee Williams by John Lahr
Thanks to Tim for his wise thoughts in this conversation, and to you for listening.
